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- I'm not exactly sure I can place the name to the track, but
Batman - Finale sounded nothing like anything in the
Hellraiser movies, IMO.
- NOW Elfman bitches about not wanting to make Hellraiser-ish
type music, considering how much of Hellbound he took and
intergrated into Batman AND Sleepy Hollow?
Batman - Finale
- Dead or Living? from Hellbound
Sleepy Hollow - Love Lost
- Headless Wizard from Hellbound
- Whilst I can see the point with the sequenced not being
scored in the final cut, I must say that I actually feel the
sequence with score has a very menacing & chilling feel.
Also, not having score here is just a throw back to Raimi's
old days (Evil Dead etc) when he left music out for scenes
similar to this. It might have been nice to see him stray
from this. The choice of Raimi for Spiderman itself was very
different.
- good music
- It's good to get some light about the infamous dispute
between Elfman and Raimi, because so far I didn't understand
why that long time partnership ended in such harsh terms.
- Hm... I can say that I prefer Danny's handling of everything
following the initial activation of the tentacles through
the end of the experiment. There are a few moments I
would've liked to have in the final cut of the hospital
scene, in terms of his score, but the absence of outside
music definitely added to the horror of that scene.
...It's
interesting to hear Danny's score for these scenes, since
I've been wanting to hear his original for the experiment
for a while.
- The only scene that Raimi was right about was the hospital
scene. It is way more chilling with the only noise coming
from screams and the tentacles slamming things around.
- Well i think Youngs music had more of a suspense feeling
than Elfmans more bashing cues in this scene. Im a die hard
Elfman fan but ill have to say that the Young cues worked
better on this one.
- i actually like what Chris Young did much more; coming from
a die hard Elfman fan.
- i must say, as much as i love Elfman, i prefer the attack
sequence as it was heard on film (sans score). it made it
much more intense.
- I like elfmans a lot better...but I think its good that in
the final cut they didnt put music in the hospital scene,
its much better that way imo.
- I like this! Even the hospital room scene is pretty good!
But, what Chris Young re-scored was good but his flaw was
that he had the same notes over and over again. Elfman
atleast threw some different stuff at us, you know.
- Very Nice. Please post more music of doc ock!
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Description: (more)This is one of the sequences that caused the imbroglio during the post-production of the film. It was rumoured that Sam Raimi didn't attend the recording sessions and wasn't happy with Danny Elfman's music
(less)This is one of the sequences that caused the imbroglio during the post-production of the film. It was rumoured that Sam Raimi didn't attend the recording sessions and wasn't happy with Danny Elfman's music for these scenes. They were temp-tracked with the "Hellraiser II" score and Raimi wanted Elfman to write something extremely similar to Christopher Young's music which he refused to do. To make it short: tension grew and it ended up with Elfman leaving the film and with Raimi asking Young to rewrite several scenes, in this case, copying his own score for Hellraiser II.
What Elfman wrote here is very indicative of who Doctor Octavius is: a man of science with noble intentions who is trapped by his megalomaniac projects. In the first statements of his main theme, the harmonics chosen give a sense of mystery and achievement as Octavius is living the moment he has been waiting for years. It's mainly here that we can notice that Doc Ock's main theme is a diminished version of Spider-Man's theme, meaning that at that moment of the film, he's a potential modern hero of his own.
As soon as the experiment goes wrong, Elfman installs the orchestration that will be used for the character: mainly a "monster" approach, something between Frankenstein and Jekyll & Hyde, always carrying both nemesis and trauma.
The Hospital scene is one of Raimi's few good decisions about the music. By leaving these images on their own, the scene is way more impressive and effective. Ironically, this is the only moment in the score where Elfman went for an over-the-top writing, underlining every single aspects of the frame which is what Raimi was looking for most of the time. The final cut reintegrates Elfman's music when Doc Ock wakes up.
More to come...
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